Senator Nampijinpa Price talks to Chris Kenny, Sky News

18 June 2026

Subjects: Capital Gains Tax Changes; One Nation Remarks on Monoculture.

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CHRIS KENNY:

Let's go to the Red Centre now and catch up with the Shadow Minister for Small Business, Jacinta Nampijinpa Price in Alice Springs. Thanks for joining us, Jacinta. I'm keen to get your reaction to Anthony Albanese and Jim Chalmers' budget backflip. Is that enough for small business and bigger businesses in this country? 

SENATOR JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE:

Chris, these proposed new CGT carve-outs are an admission by this Labor Government that they got their policy wrong from the get-go. Aussies can't be taken for fools, they know a turd when it's being rolled in glitter. It doesn't go far enough, obviously. They should be axing their toxic taxes altogether, which is absolutely what we aim to do if we're successful at the next election. I know that this has been such a topic for the businesses that I've been speaking to right around the country, for those right here in my own hometown of Alice Springs as well, is that they are sick of the uncertainty, not knowing what this government is going to thrust upon them next. They lied. They didn't bring this issue to the last federal election. Therefore, small businesses are saying, okay, they're doing a backflip, but we can't trust the thing that this government says, that this Prime Minister says, when everything's been built on lies to begin with. So look, there's still a level of uncertainty because who do these next carve-outs relate to? What businesses can then apply for this? There is just a continuation of uncertainty in a climate that is really struggling for small businesses, they are struggling with the cost of everything, but it's the uncertainty that is killing them, it's stopping them from investing, it is stopping them from employing more people, it is stopping them from taking on more apprentices. Many have said, I feel like we're just keeping our head above water — like we could go under at any time — and that we're either prepared to wrap up, retire now, or take their business offshore. And that's not what we want. We want them to continue to support our communities, to support our economy. I mean, after all, there are 2.5 million small businesses around this country that employ over five million Australians and contribute to a third of our nation's GDP.  

CHRIS KENNY:

I'm trying not to visualise a turd rolled in glitter, but what you say about the broken promises here is clear. There's still broken promises on negative gearing and capital gains tax, but it is an improvement, isn't it, especially from a small and medium business point of view, where the capital gains tax carve-out was going to apply to businesses with a turnover of up to $2 million a year. Now it's going to go to $10 million a year, so there are many more businesses who will escape the extra tax. 

SENATOR JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE:

Yes, there's that element. But the other side of that element is the fact that, well, why would a small business want to grow and prosper and diversify and then go on to become a medium business? Again, it's killing off aspiration. It's stopping those businesses from wanting to become more than what they currently are. I suppose it’s like, why would you want to earn more money and then get pushed up into a higher income bracket? It's all of those sorts of things at once. They just need to get rid of it altogether. 

CHRIS KENNY:

 Jacinta, you would have been interested in Pauline Hanson's performance at the National Press Club yesterday, refusing to give a welcome to country and also talking about the need for a monoculture in Australia. Do you support that concept?  

SENATOR JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE:

Oh, look, when I am speaking to audiences around the country, I've always said that I'd like to acknowledge and pay my respects to all proud Australians in the room. I mean, that's just a given, I suppose, and that's a position that I've always held and something that I'm very passionate about. And I’ve always stated, I suppose, that I am very passionate about the fact that we are all Australians under one flag and that we should be proud of the Australian culture that we do have. It is derived from all of us coming together, whether it's first Australians, to those settlers who came, the convict class, to the migrant community. I mean, within my own family, I have all of those elements which I'm extremely proud of and something that I've always said we should celebrate in this country and teach our children to be proud of and also celebrate in our country. I think it's something that we should get behind. 

CHRIS KENNY:

So is that a monoculture? 

SENATOR JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE: 

I suppose for me it’s the Australian culture; it’s understanding that we do have an Australian culture, that our history, I suppose, hasn’t been taught in the round. I think education is really important for our children to take the good, the bad, the ugly. But what we've seen in recent times is our history being weaponised by the activist class and used against us. And for our kids to feel like they should be ashamed to call themselves Australian. It's been about dividing our children into different groups, you know, Indigenous, non-Indigenous and teaching our non-Indigenous kids of Anglo-Celtic heritage in this country that they should be ashamed of that. These are all the sorts of things that I have railed against and that I truly believe that we need to actually value our Australian culture here in Australia, which is a celebration of all of our cultures that have come together. 

CHRIS KENNY:

Yeah, well expressed and I think a lot of people would understand and agree with you. I suppose what I'm interested in though is just whether or not that's very similar to Pauline Hanson's view. Do you think you're on the same page on these issues? 

SENATOR JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE:

These are my views and these are the views that I've always held and Pauline has obviously expressed her views in her way, in that manner. I suppose my views come from having the lived experience of being someone who's got an Aboriginal mother, a white Australian father, children who've got combined heritage within them, and my husband who is also a recent Australian and a very proud Scossie, a migrant in his own right who's made this country his own and he's very passionate about it, which I suppose is why he was out there during the Voice campaign, fighting alongside other Australians so we wouldn't divide our nation along the lines of race within our constitution. 

CHRIS KENNY:

He sure is a passionate Aussie, even though he's difficult to understand sometimes through that Scottish accent. I hope to catch up with him again soon. Thanks for joining us, Jacinta. I appreciate it. Jacinta Nampijinpa Price there in Alice Springs.

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